Vedic Earth

The Vedas are the oldest spiritual texts known to man. They have existed since the beginning of creation, passed down from one generation to the next by great saints and sages. At that time people had good memories and were able to accurately hear and remember all the details.

About five thousand years ago the sage Srila Vyasadeva understood that due to the commencement of the current age of Kali, the age of quarrel and fighting, memory would decrease and these ancient spiritual texts could no longer be preserved by being passed down through oral tradition only. So Srila Vyasadeva recorded the Vedas in written form around five thousand years ago. His literary works form an immense library of knowledge, both material and spiritual, and among everything else he has given descriptions of the creation, the universe, our solar system, the planets, the stars. He has given us a description of the mechanical system underlying the working of the universe which is radically different from the way we have come to presume the universe works.

Prior to five thousand years ago the Vedic culture was spread all over the world and that accounts for the similar descriptions of the universe found in many countries.

Srila Vyasadeva describes the whole creation including the spiritual and material worlds, and he describes the creator also, Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. There are many universes, not just one, and each universe is enclosed within a globe, like an egg. There are many such globe like universes clustered together and floating in an ocean in a small corner of the spiritual sky.

Everything we perceive in our universe is contained within one of those egg like globes. Each globe is covered by layers of earth, water, fire, air and ether, so it is impossible for us to see from one globe to another. Different universes are different sizes but our particular universe is four billion miles across.

Because the description of the universe given in the Vedas is so dramatically different from what we have come to believe it is quite difficult for us to comprehend what Srila Vyasadeva is describing, however, here on, we will attempt to try to understand the workings of the Vedic universe and try to produce a predictive model, based on the descriptions of Srila Vyasadeva, that works at least as well as the globe earth model.


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11 Replies to “Vedic Earth”

  1. Hrishikesh Nath

    Hare Krishna Prabhu,
    Please accept my humble obeisances.

    Can I directly study the 5th Canto without properly understanding the first 4 cantos? Or will I not understand anything?

    • madhudvisa

      Hare Krishna Hrishikesh

      Best thing is to read Srimad-Bhagavatam starting from the beginning. It is not that in only the Fifth Canto there is discussion of the structure of the universe. Parts of Fifth Canto specifically focus on the structure of the universe, but there is information throughout the other cantos as well.

      So you should at least read the first four cantos before reading the Fifth Canto, ideally. But if you really want to read the Fifth Canto specifically there is no harm in that. But Bhagavatam is a systematic presentation and it is meant to be read from the beginning.

      We will not ‘properly understand’ it from the first reading. It is very deep subject matter and there are levels of realization. So my suggestion is you make a plan to read the whole Bhagavatam, starting from the beginning.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

    • Flat Earth Facts

      You have no idea at all how far the stars are away from us. It is all 100% speculation. Guesses. Only guesses. No idea actually. All we can see is spots of light in the sky. We have no idea at all how far away they are. The only reason we say they are so unbelievably far away is they always remain in relatively the same positions even though, according the the globe earth theory, the earth is moving almost 200 million miles after 6 months. So if the stars were not so many light years away they would not appear they way we see them. So the stars are only so so far away because if they weren’t the globe earth model would break.

  2. Johan

    The stars are actually only a few thousand miles away and are merely points of light in the firmament. The distance can be calculated by triangulation from observations at different points across the flat surface of the Earth.

    • Flat Earth Facts

      You don’t know the distance of the stars Johan, neither do the globe earth people. The truth is we only have a two dimensional view of the sky. We can measure quite reliably the positions of all the stars, planets, etc, but the distance, that is not something we have any real information about.

      The distance of things in the sky from the earth, it all depends on assumptions.

      The only reason why the globe earthers put the stars light years away is if the stars were not light years away that would disprove their globe earth model. They have the earth rotating around the sun, sun at 93 million miles from the earth. So after six months the earth will be on the other side of the sun, almost 200 million miles away from where we are today. But the problem is we have still got exactly the same view of the stars now as we will have in six months. That would be impossible unless the starts were so so so far away that the 200 million miles the earth moves is nothing in comparison..

      So that is why the stars are light years away. Because they have to be, otherwise the globe earth model would be false.

      So it is like that. We don’t know the distances of the sun, moon, stars and planets, all we can do is speculate, theorize and guess.

      So you can not say “The stars are only a few thousand miles away….” Because you have no way of measuring the distance to the stars, and the globe earthers can’t say the stars are light years away. If we are to be honest we have to admit we don’t know how far away the stars are.

      • wierd teck

        you could look at a star or some other small point in the sky relative to another point whose location is well defined to figure out the distance to the star though its only works for closer objects. like a thousand light-year distance, if you have very precise measurements.

        • Flat Earth Facts

          Rubbish. We don’t know the distances of any of the celestial objects in the sky. The point is we only have a 2 dimensional view. We can not determine the distance. All the distances have been guessed based on assumptions that may or may not be correct.

          So we don’t know distance of any of the celestial objects and we can not tell the distance of one object in the sky based on another object. We don’t know the actual brightness of a star for example. As its brightness will decrease over distance. So they say brighter stars are closer and less-bright stars are more distant. That is presuming the stars have a similar brightness so their perceived brightness to us is proportional to their distance from us.

          So you have to get it through your head. We don’t know, and we can’t know. Because we only have got information of 2 dimensions, but for positioning an object you need 3 dimensions. All we can do is guess the distance. Of course they make theories like they have theorized that the color of the stars, the red shift, is proportional to its distance from Earth. But we don’t know if that is true. They presume brighter stars are closer and less bright stars are further away, but we don’t know if that is true. And they presume the stars must be so so so far away [light years] otherwise it would break their globe earth model.

          So we don’t know actually. How far away the stars are. Totally unknown to us.

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