Can’t detect rotation of earth proves flat earth

Our inability to detect or measure in any way the spinning of the earth up to 1000 miles per hour in a easterly direction is one of the most quoted proofs given by the flat earthers. They assert:

  • Vertically fired cannonballs and other projectiles should fall significantly due west, but they don’t, they come straight down
  • Helicopters and hot air balloons should be able to simply hover and wait for their destinations to appear underneath them as the earth spins
  • The spin of the earth should significantly change the flight times of eastern and western flights but in reality there is little difference in the flight times.
  • and many other good points.

The answer to these questions from the perspective of the globe earthers is as the earth spins gravity pulls the entire atmosphere and everything in the atmosphere including the cannon balls, the butterflys, hot air balloons and helicopters, so everything rotates at the same speed as the earth. Because everything is then moving at the same 1,000 miles per hour it gives the illusion that there is no movement.

It is truly a mystery how gravity could cause the earth and the atmosphere and everything in it to spin at up to one thousand miles per hour and hold things so tightly, keeping all the water in the ocean firmly stuck to the the earth, yet still allow a butterfly to flap its wings and go effortlessly in any direction it chooses in the sky.

The conclusion is many valid points are raised which do not have satisfactory explanations from the globe earth people. Considering these and many other points raised by the flat earthers one has to seriously question the validity of the globe earth model which ascribes to the earth so many simultaneous motions in different directions that no one has every been able to feel, measure or prove. Also one has to marvel at the magic powers the globe earthers ascribe to  gravity which makes everything possible in their world.


Supporting Flat Earth Proofs

  • 20) If Earth were truly constantly spinning Eastwards at over 1000mph, vertically-fired cannonballs and other projectiles should fall significantly due west.
  • 21) If the Earth were truly constantly spinning Eastwards at over 1000mph, helicopters and hot-air balloons should be able to simply hover over the surface of the Earth and wait for their destinations to come to them!
  • 22) If Earth were truly constantly spinning Eastwards at over 1000mph, during the Red Bull stratosphere dive, Felix Baumgartner, spending 3 hours ascending over New Mexico, should have landed 2500 miles West into the Pacific Ocean but instead landed a few dozen miles East of the take-off point.
  • 24) If Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning eastwards over 1000mph then North/South facing cannons should establish a control while East-firing cannonballs should fall significantly farther than all others while West-firing cannonballs should fall significantly closer.
  • 25) If Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning eastwards over 1000mph, then the average commercial airliner traveling 500mph should never be able to reach its Eastward destinations before they come speeding up from behind!
  • 26) Quoting “Heaven and Earth” by Gabrielle Henriet, “If flying had been invented at the time of Copernicus, there is no doubt that he would have soon realized that his contention regarding the rotation of the earth was wrong, on account of the relation existing between the speed of an aircraft and that of the earth’s rotation.
  • 27) If Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning Eastwards over 1000mph, landing airplanes on such fast-moving runways which face all manner of directions North, South, East, West and otherwise would be practically impossible, yet in reality such fictional concerns are completely negligible.
  • 28) If the Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning Eastwards over 1000mph, then clouds, wind and weather patterns could not casually and unpredictably go every which way, with clouds often travelling in opposing directions at varying altitudes simultaneously.
  • 29) If the Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning Eastwards over 1000mph, this should somewhere somehow be seen, heard, felt or measured by someone,
  • 30) In his book “South Sea Voyages,” Arctic and Antarctic explorer Sir James Clarke Ross, described his experience on the night of November 27th, 1839 and his conclusion that the Earth must be motionless: “The sky being very clear … it enabled us to observe the higher stratum of clouds to be moving in an exactly opposite direction to that of the wind-
  • 31) …If the earth-globe rotates on its axis at the terrific rate of 1,000 miles an hour, such an immense mass would of necessity cause a tremendous rush of wind in the space it occupied. The wind would go all one way, and anything like clouds which got ‘within the sphere of influence’ of the rotating sphere, would have to go the same way…
  • 97) NASA and modern astronomy say the Earth is a giant ball tilted back, wobbling and spinning 1,000 mph around its central axis, traveling 67,000 mph circles around the Sun, spiraling 500,000 mph around the Milky Way, while the entire galaxy rockets a ridiculous 670,000,000 mph through the Universe, with all of these motions originating from an alleged “Big Bang” cosmogenic explosion 14 billion years ago. That’s a grand total of 670,568,000 mph in several different directions we’re all supposedly speeding along at simultaneously, yet no one has ever seen, felt, heard, measured or proven a single one of these motions to exist whatsoever.
  • 128) There are huge centuries-old stone sundials and moondials all over the world which still tell the time now down to the minute as perfectly as the day they were made. If the Earth, Sun and Moon were truly subject to the number of contradictory revolving, rotating, wobbling and spiraling motions claimed by modern astronomy, it would be impossible for these monuments to so accurately tell time without constant adjustment.
  • 130) From “Earth Not a Globe!” by Samuel Rowbotham, “Take two carefully-bored metallic tubes, not less than six feet in length, and place them one yard asunder, on the opposite sides of a wooden frame, or a solid block of wood or stone: so adjust them that their centres or axes of vision shall be perfectly parallel to each other. Now, direct them to the plane of some notable fixed star, a few seconds previous to its meridian time. Let an observer be stationed at each tube and the moment the star appears in the first tube let a loud knock or other signal be given, to be repeated by the observer at the second tube when he first sees the same star. A distinct period of time will elapse between the signals given. The signals will follow each other in very rapid succession, but still, the time between is sufficient to show that the same star is not visible at the same moment by two parallel lines of sight when only one yard asunder. A slight inclination of the second tube towards the first tube would be required for the star to be seen through both tubes at the same instant. Let the tubes remain in their position for six months; at the end of which time the same observation or experiment will produce the same results–the star will be visible at the same meridian time, without the slightest alteration being required in the direction of the tubes: from which it is concluded that if the earth had moved one single yard in an orbit through space, there would at least be observed the slight inclination of the tube which the difference in position of one yard had previously required. But as no such difference in the direction of the tube is required, the conclusion is unavoidable, that in six months a given meridian upon the earth’s surface does not move a single yard, and therefore, that the earth has not the slightest degree of orbital motion.”
  • 129) To quote William Carpenter, “Why, in the name of common sense, should observers have to fix their telescopes on solid stone bases so that they should not move a hair’s-breadth, – if the Earth on which they fix them moves at the rate of nineteen miles in a second? Indeed, to believe that ‘six thousand million million million tons’ is ‘rolling, surging, flying, darting on through space for ever’ with a velocity compared with which a shot from a cannon is a ‘very slow coach,’ with such unerring accuracy that a telescope fixed on granite pillars in an observatory will not enable a lynx-eyed astronomer to detect a variation in its onward motion of the thousandth part of a hair’s-breadth is to conceive a miracle compared with which all the miracles on record put together would sink into utter insignificance. Since we can, (in middle north latitudes), see the North Star, on looking out of a window that faces it – and out of the very same corner of the very same pane of glass in the very same window – all the year round, it is proof enough for any man in his senses that we have made no motion at all and that the Earth is not a globe.”
  • 185) We are told that the Earth and atmosphere spin together at such a perfect uniform velocity that no one in history has ever seen, heard, felt or measured the supposed 1000mph movement. This is then often compared to traveling in a car at uniform velocity, where we only feel the movement during acceleration or deceleration. In reality, however, even with eyes closed, windows up, over smooth tar in a luxury car at a mere uniform 50mph, the movement absolutely can be felt! At 20 times this speed, Earth’s imaginary 1000mph spin would most certainly be noticeable, felt, seen and heard by all.
  • 186) People sensitive to motion sickness feel distinct unease and physical discomfort from motion as slight as an elevator or a train ride. This means that the 1000mph alleged uniform spin of the Earth has no effect on such people, but add an extra 50mph uniform velocity of a car and their stomach starts turning knots. The idea that motion sickness is nowhere apparent in anyone at 1000mph, but suddenly comes about at 1050mph is ridiculous and proves the Earth is not in motion whatsoever.

12 Replies to “Can’t detect rotation of earth proves flat earth”

  1. Stone Forest

    ‘The conclusion is many valid points are raised which do not have satisfactory explanations from the globe earth people.’

    Ergo, why should they be believed?

    This does not prove that the Earth is flat, but it does demand valid evidence from those who claim ‘the truth’.

    • John

      Examples are not good (air plane air balloons, etc landing farther away etc.
      All these actions are taking place “with-in” the earth’s atmosphere, so they will not be affected by rotation speeds.

      • On the Level

        You’re backwards. Earth’s rotation must affect atmospheric motion. According to the absurd globe model, if a supersonic jet flying from around the north pole to the equator the relative atmospheric wind speed should jettison from north pole wind velocities to something like 24,000 mph east to west storm wind velocities by the time the craft reaches the equator. This must happen simply to keep the air mass at the same relative velocity to the earth’s surface. Of course any aircraft confronting such velocity differentials would need to compensate for it. The fact that no one does proves the earth does not rotate.
        Get off the ball, it will only give you headaches.
        Have a great day!

        • Flat Earth Facts

          Of course globe idea is everything is moving, earth and atmosphere together. So if everything is moving together and you are inside that system then everything appears stationary and any motion within the system is independent of the movement of the whole system.

          If you are inside an airplane travelling at 1000 KM/hour, because plane and everything in the plane is moving at 1000 KM/Hour within the plane there is no sense of movement at all. You can walk in any direction within the plane with no effect from the movement of the plane. Not that when you move towards the front of the plane you go fast and when you walk to the back of the plane you go very slow. No. No. No.

          Because the whole system, the whole plane is moving at a constant velocity, no matter how fast that is, inside the plane everything is also moving at that same velocity so all the movements within the plane are not at all effected by the velocity of the plane.

          So globe earthers take the earth and the atmosphere as one system. Everything moving together. So within a moving system the movement of the system is irrelevant to the movements within the system…

          Flat earthers seem unable to comprehend this…

          • On the level

            Once aloft an airplane can no longer rationally be lazily lumped as part of the supposed globe system. Air moves quite independently of the surface. Jet streams of several hundred miles per hour illustrates my point. In any case, no reason has been presented as to why the plane pilot would not notice increasing airflow directionally altering the plane’s path sideways over time. The supposed unity of air and surface motion arising merely from gravity is mere speculative dreaming.

          • Flat Earth Facts

            This is not a very good argument. You know if we are going to consider the globe model we have to accept the presumption that it is a unit and everything is moving together so your plane is within that ‘frame of reference’ so movement of the frame of reference becomes irrelevant. I know there seems to be holes in this but it is a reasonable story. So rather than trying to pick holes in the reasonable globe earth story, which achieves nothing, try to develop a reasonable model, story, as to how the earth could be flat and at the same time explain what we observe happening around us.

            I agree with you actually that everything we experience indicates that the earth is stationary. And this point that you are bringing up points to the earth being stationary. Because we can not find any evidence at all of the earth moving. In fact the earth is given as the example of stability. So we have no reason at all to believe the earth is moving. And we can not measure any movement. So this point as to how the atmosphere could be so connected to the earth that it spins at exactly the same speed around the earth. It is sort of hard to believe. But that is the globe earth model story and flat earthers don’t have a better story. So people will accept the most believable story. And globe earth, that is a fairly believable story, but flat earthers, they don’t even have an agreed story, and none of their stories explain our observations satisfactorily at all…

  2. John

    I know someone here in the UK who got arrested for repeatedly firing canon balls in four cardinal directions; North, South, East and West. The Police claimed illegal possession of a firearm, illegal possession of explosives, Terrorist activities and Damage to property as reasons for the arrest. We, however know the real reasons were to stop my friend’s experiments so they could not disprove the spinning globe theory. They got a very light sentence, community service, parole and (rather unfairly), compulsory psychiactric counselling. The “ornamental” cannon, powder and remaining balls, wadding, fuses etc were all confiscated by the Police. My friend never did find where the cannon balls ended up.

    Proof, if any were needed in flat earth theory!

  3. Eli

    Gravity is pulling everything down onto the (round) earth, and there is nothing in space above the atmosphere, right? And the atmosphere goes all the way around the earth. So there is friction and inertia keeping the atmosphere And people and every thing on the planet. Why do you think that the moon doesn’t just call down and crash into the earth? Because there is no force or friction acting on the moon. Relative to the earth, the atmosphere is not moving fast enough to be in orbit. The atmosphere stays on the ground because of the exact opposite reason of why the moon is not crashed into earth. As to why people get motion sickness, when your stationary you have gravity acting on you right then. A gravity of around one G. When you are driving you have gravity more gravity acting on you in more than one was.

    • Jbud

      The moon is considered to be ‘in’ earths atmosphere, so why is it not effected? Also, how do you create a pressure system? I assume you know we live in one? Without a container how is this possible?

  4. Steve Price

    So I have a question, if the earth is flat then wouldnt we assume that people have gone missing by falling off the edge of the earth? We have ships and planes that travel all over the world every day and never have we had any instances where people have fallen off the planet? or were reported to have fallen off the planet. I understand there will be a default ‘conspiracy theory’ around this, but please elaborate as to why would this be the case where an agency wants us to believe the is earth is flat and not round? What is to be gained by keeping this a secret?

  5. Jerry Paul

    Imagine for a moment that you are on a merry go round 50 feet in diameter. Consider this to be the earth. The earth makes one rotation in 24 hours at 1000 mph. Now if you sat on the 50 feet diameter merry go round and make one rotation in 24 hours, you could not detect any movment what so ever, at this speed the merry go round would seeming be motionless to our limited senses. Now think deeply about this and reason the only possible conclusion, the comparison and logic are sound. We all need to think more deeply about these kinds of ideas and don’t just believe the first conclusion we come to. Keep going until you exhaust all the possibilities in your hypothesis before you accept your beliefs as fact, only then can you call your belief a theory.

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